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steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:40 am
by givergas
is there anyone that can suggest where to get a steering head badge plate . and just how do you find the month that a particular bike was manufactured . im missing one thanks ....albert

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:31 am
by socalhodaka
I had this in my files, I’ve never bought one. Just have it in case.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124630442953?f ... wsaMkV7ys4

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:41 am
by viclioce
This guy has been recommended by Rick Mott on several occasions. Prices have gone up $10 in the past year. But he’ll stamp any frame number you give him and tell him when it was manufactured.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124630442953?f ... wsaMkV7ys4

Here’s the most accurate chart. You can estimate the month from the year of manufacture by the range the frame number falls into.

I would divide the total number of bikes made that year by 12. Then estimate where your frame number falls in the range by dividing your frame number by the last frame number for that year. This should give you a percentage figure which you can convert into a month. :ugeek: Victor

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:11 am
by taber hodaka
Victor the first chart has a couple of errors in it and I cannot read the second one. ----- Clarence

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:35 am
by dirty_rat
Your best bet for finding a month/year for your bike is to list your VIN number, you don't have to list the whole number, just the first few characters, such as A-656##. Then ask if anyone has a close VIN number and see when theirs was produced. They were made in batches over a month or two, and then another model would be produced, so it didn't go 100 this month, 100 the next month, etc.

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:02 am
by viclioce
Clarence. These are the best we have. The first chart is from Terry’s website. The second is from Bruce’s website. :ugeek: Victor

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:27 am
by givergas
thanks for the link . i contacted them and will order one in the next couple of days .i followed victors way to find the month and came up April , so that being said DIRTY_RAT lets try it ,here's the frame # D20425 how's this jive with victors answer ....albert

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:51 pm
by givergas
im reading a book and what shows up today but a steering head badge from a 1912 pierce motorcycle . go figure

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:32 pm
by taber hodaka
That's cool, Pierce also made fancy cars there were called Pierce Arrow. Your emblem shows a arrow also. And thank you for letting me purchase the model 98 super rat in ST Cloud some while back. I think I found it on Craigs list? ------ Clarence

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:18 am
by dirty_rat
Albert,
My Combat is VIN # D-16053, it was manufactured in March 1973.

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:11 am
by givergas
dirty_rat , i used your vin and my vin and charts and graphs a few tables , with no results . i home school my 15 year old grandson i think i found todays math class project , will share the results if any ...albert

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:54 am
by Eknutson127
after looking at the charts we found a error the cum. prod. Colum didn't add up 30 and 29 were wrong the 108,504 never added up it should be 103,204 and be switched with the 112,404.----Elliot

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:41 am
by taber hodaka
Several lines are in error not that anyone made an error it is just that I see some numbers different than I remember. Line 7 and 8, 100B's made back to back, (it is my belief that after the first batches of the model 93MX super rat's Hodaka they finished off their run of ace 100 model 92's) and that changes things. Knock on the door> Clarence

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:26 am
by givergas
after careful thought , pages of math , head scratching , and carefully looking at all the ideas that were put out there I'm going with July - 1973 .... albert

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:40 am
by givergas
so i should explain my confusion with the chart that victor brought up . starting with the original data row. the frame in question , wombat frame , the numbers start out at 23,24,27,25,28,26,& 30 , why the jumping around . it starts with a wombat frame at 23 , than a combat frame at 24 , than it has a wombat frame at 27 then back to a combat frame at 25 than back to a wombat frame at 28 back to a combat frame at 26 and ends with a super combat at 30, 29 is for the dirt squirt. so did they make all the combats in order or did they stop after a run and jump to wombats ? now on to the beg frame #s and ending #s . starts at 0001 and ends at 29600, when you start adding up the numbers they don't match up either but are close enough to be ok, that's fine . on the top of the chart in between engine letter and numbered produced there's A/C ,what does that signify ? and now on to the cum. product on line 26 it reads 99304 than jumps to 112404 than back down to 108504 . we found that after 99304 it should read 103204 than 112404 the 108504 is a error . same thing happens on line 35 . so i kind of got confused on all the numbers moving around , so to take all frames made in that year 1973 or do you take just the combat frames to figure this out ? in the end a educated guess is good enough . it was a good math day in the end ....albert

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:08 am
by taber hodaka
A/C that is the amount they spent on air conditioning ? ? Not a clue // Alice and Charles were in charge ?? Average/ construction _______ units per week__________________ Clarence

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:12 pm
by MTrat
Which Hodakas, if any, came with no steering head badge.

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:48 am
by dirty_rat
Not positive, but the very early Ace 90's (and possibly the very early Ace 100's) came with just a small plate with frame number riveted above the left shock.

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:57 am
by taber hodaka
Out on the limb and the branch could brake, you are correct about the ace 90 small stamped plate above the left rear shock. The ace 100 was a larger stamped frame number above the left rear shock, no aluminum plate. I think the 100B's 92A, 92B and 92B+ had the frame stamped like the ace 100 and had a aluminum badge held on with pins, fastened to the front of the frame. with date serial number ect. correct us ------------ Clarence

Re: steering head badges

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:29 am
by givergas
my new steering head badge . same size as original , nice and clear with adhesive on the back . no rivets came with and flat . lots better than the one i didnt have ....albert... PS pretty bad picture it looks a lot better in person