counter shaft spacer location

[spudman]

Hello! Just a quick question...for the Model 99 Road Toad....in figure "C" of the schematics, does anyone know if part # 914608R (counter shaft spacer - left) is located on top of (outside of) the counter shaft oil seal or under (behind) it? When I removed my sprocket tonight to try to diagnose the slight oil leak I have when the bike is leaning on its sides stand, I noticed that I did not see this spacer. So either I'm missing it or it is underneath (behind) the oil seal. I'd like to replace the sprocket collar too (part 924609) along with a new oil seal, but it looks like the collar is currently out of stock. Mine has the tell-tale "groove" around the circumference...which I see could be the cause of my leak too. Thanks in advance!

[Bullfrog]

That item 914608R (counter shaft spacer - left) is actually inside the transmission cavity. It resides between the bearing and the shoulder of the control shaft - so you can't possibly see it from the outside.

NOTE: Since you can't get a replacement sprocket collar right now, take a peek at how things might work if you turn it end-for-end. That might "move" the groove away from the seal lip.

NOTE2: The sprocket nut must be tight. A loose sprocket nut WILL allow oil seepage. The ends of the sprocket collar "seal" by way of tight metal-to-metal contact with the inner bearing race and backside of the sprocket.

NOTE3: It is difficult to get the sprocket nut tight and keep it tight.
Ed

[spudman]

Thank you for the quick reply Bullfrog! I'll try flipping the collar end-for-end and also tightening the sprocket nut. I believe I read somewhere else here that it should be 250 inch pounds....does that sound about right?

[Bullfrog]

No, I don't think so on the 250 in lb specification . . . though I don't have a torque spec. for you. Trying to tighten that snug MAY result in stripped out nut threads. While the threads are pretty large in terms of diameter, the splines remove half of threads on the countershaft. I believe the countershaft is hard enough that if threads fail, it will be the threads in the nut. (Um, but I can't guarantee that - and if you don't have a spare nut, that would be bad. I don't even want to think about the possibility of stripping threads on the countershaft.)

Perhaps someone can provide a torque spec they have actually used???
Ed

[spudman]

Oh....I was just using the info Danny provided here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3455
But yes....if anyone has the exact factory recommended torque value, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

[spudman]

Just saw this post too!
viewtopic.php?t=3405

[Bullfrog]

OOOOHHH! I forgot about Danny's post sometime ago (I'm getting of the age when that happens sometimes ) If it comes from Danny, you can take it to the bank. So 250 in-lbs it is for the sprocket nut. The factory never did publish a torque specification for the sprocket nut, but Danny has and I'm going to go with it.
Ed

[spudman]

Sounds good Bullfrog....thanks!

[viclioce]

Just so you know, for the conversion, 250 inch pounds = 20.83 foot pounds. I just did that conversion again today! Victor