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hodaka dirt rider
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I have a hodaka. I have frame an engine i do not have a muffler 4 it. can I try to see if engine runs properly without a muffler on it at all. I olny want to see if the engine will run. thanks
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Do you mean no muffler - or no tail pipe of any kind? It is OK to run the engine without the muffler insert. NOT OK to start the engine without an exhaust pipe.
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ok thanks
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Curious minds would like to know. Can you elaborate on what type of damage starting a two stroke without a pipe or any type of exhaust attached to the cylinder can cause. I have also heard this can cause damage, but never got a full explanation of what type. Causes a too lean condition without backpressure? Heat build up on the exhaust side of the cylinder liner? Eardrum damage?

Is this problem/principle applicable to both 2 and 4 cycle motorcycle engines.
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Post by MTRob »

I did it without the exhaust pipe. It fired ran 2 secounds then i shut it down. Just wanted to know if it would start.
I don't have alot of /patience when it comes to hard work to see if it works. Didn't let it run for more then 2 secounds
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Risks of running with NO exhaust system do lean heavily toward being shot by a neighbor, almost immediate severe hearing loss and possible loss of the shop and house due to fire ( :-) ) -- but yes running for more than just a few seconds will result in engine damage due ingress of extra air (leaning out) through the exhaust port.
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PS: I'll let others comment on the precise situation with four strokers . . . but the first three issues listed above still apply. :-)
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Post by taber hodaka »

Even leaky exhaust nuts have caused over heating. On the Ace 90's the rubber connector caught fire because of the air leak and started a forest fire. The rubber connector is between the header pipe and the muffler. ------- Clarence
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