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#3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:59 am
by hodakamax
Been gone awhile but busy. #3 Hodaka project. Third in-line for restoration. Ace 100B+. Coming together with extra things and hand-me-downs from #1 and #2. Package deal, all from the same barn. Starting to look interesting and even fun. Has an engine but this stock Ace 100 E engine from #2 looks lower miles. Did a nice rebuild on this, bearing/seals, updated clutch parts, bore and new Wiseco piston. Vintage Webco head from the Hodaka shed. Ratty rat pipe. Had to weld together a new header pipe, muffler and mount. Fake titanium paint, who would know? New stump puller 64T rear sprocket for crawling around in the woods. Starting to remind of first Hodaka mods. New tires, chain and all that stuff. Starting to worry me with spring coming, I need to check this thing out in the proper habitat, tight trails. Looks like a hoot to drive. Optional engines to try but I’ll start here. Maxie

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:10 am
by mac
Awesome build Max ! That should be a fun and reliable woods machine.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:25 am
by hodakamax
Last look at the new bore and Wiseco piston for #3 project. One last squeeze here on the old Webco head.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:14 am
by hodakamax
#3 is, well, third in line for restoration. Handy for a jig for trying things for the #1 project, also an Ace 100 B+. Last of the Aces but still just a bit short. Did fit a model 94 Wombat swing arm and with some effort, the conversion works really well, being longer and wider in the right places. Worked so good I took it off and installed it on the #1 Super Brat project. Now I feel guilty about #3 being shorter again. I'm now doing the old method of lengthening the original swing arm about two inches. Off to the welder guy for brace and a stretch.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:45 am
by hodakamax
Nice job at the weld shop, just what the doctor ordered!

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:46 am
by hodakamax
My home-made chain guard you keep seeing looks, well, home made. Keeps me out of the chain though. Does wipe the tire but the back is open and I’ve done the mud thing enough times in life. This lengthened swing arm brace does add an attachment point and maybe I can get the mount down to one piece rather than two. Probably time to switch to an all aluminum assembly. Just a mock up but something that might work with some tuning and I did get the mounting holes located and drilled before paint. Something to fiddle with. A “we’ll see” thing. Forecast; 62F today. Onward with primer and paint.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:33 pm
by matt glascock
Clever as always. Great problem solving here. Will you be able to go to a more aggressive tire if the mood strikes?

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:52 am
by hodakamax
8-) Yes!

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:33 am
by taber hodaka
Max it looks good but the head is on backward, the air flow would bring heated air to the center of the head verses moving the hot air away from the head?? ------- Clarence

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:32 am
by Joe Ormonde
That`s how I would have bolted the head on. The air gets pulled in and would get blown right out the back. It may be installed backwards from what Webco intended but I can bet the engine will run cooler the way Max installed it. I don`t want to piss anyone off BUT Webco Designed that head wrong and Webco Heads ran WAY hotter than the Model 93 Head and made less power. The ACE90 Race Head was also better than the Webco stuff. Webco heads look FANTASTIC and that`s all. Sorry. The truth is that some aftermarket Parts are not as good as the Factory parts are. Joe

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:25 am
by taber hodaka
I would bet the head would run cooler turned around but i would only bet a quarter .25 cents It looks best whatever way max installs it. They are a cool looking head, but I agree with every thing Joe said about the Webco heads. There were other some great after market items that webco manufactured, like the cush hub for the ace 90. We like what we see Max! ------------- Clarence

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:03 am
by hodakamax
Don't want to streamline a head so the air goes around it. Most holes to the front. Scoop all you can in, at least if you are going forward. Clarence is plenty clever and I thought he might be pulling my leg as he sometimes does or worse might be right. Worried me enough to look up some old advertising pictures 'cause I just hate it when he's right and I'm wrong. Whew, looks like I have it right. Probably makes no difference sitting still and I rarely roll that far backwards. Maybe once. Maxie

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:14 am
by Dale
hodakamax wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:46 am My home-made chain guard you keep seeing looks, well, home made. Keeps me out of the chain though. Does wipe the tire but the back is open and I’ve done the mud thing enough times in life. This lengthened swing arm brace does add an attachment point and maybe I can get the mount down to one piece rather than two. Probably time to switch to an all aluminum assembly. Just a mock up but something that might work with some tuning and I did get the mounting holes located and drilled before paint. Something to fiddle with. A “we’ll see” thing. Forecast; 62F today. Onward with primer and paint.
My eye is telling me that your fabricated chain guard would look even better if the top piece of angle aluminum were cut off (Shortened) to match the length of the added piece.
Great work Max! I enjoy your posts.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:46 am
by hodakamax
Thanks Dale! I fiddle with that chain guard every time I walk by. :D

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:38 am
by Bullfrog
I think Dale is on to something there - and since the area where the tire goes by is the area most benefitting from protection - that extended part doesn't really do much. (Form follows function)
Ed

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:27 pm
by hodakamax
Good advice from a couple of guys I really respect, Dale and Ed. Couple of chain accidents I viewed in life made me a bit leery of chains. One was a powder puff race for women, one with no boots, ankle fed into lower rear sprocket, bad. Second one was me, tuning a racer in tennis shoes. No injuries but a big bite out of my pants cuff and I was trapped from reaching the ground on that side by the clog in the front sprocket. Life lessons. The guys seem to be right and the abbreviated chain guard on 94 wombats tells the story. Not much danger from the top of the rear sprocket while the chain is on it. Below lies the danger along with the chain feed to the front sprocket. I'll work on it and it will probably have one. Maxie :?

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 am
by hodakamax
Another mock-up after expert advice. Much better but not final. Good thing about mock-ups is you can look at them a few days before I cut the aluminum plate and angle. Looks better and simpler, fits better. Holes are fake so I can move them around. Like the way the holes fit in with the rear sprocket which I didn't realize until I had something visual to look at. Let me sleep on it, the song goes. Maxie 8-)

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:23 am
by Dale
Looks pretty trick!

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:03 pm
by viclioce
I like the new version Maxie! Once it’s painted up, as we used to say in NC, it will “Look slicker than snot!” LOL!!! :ugeek: Victor

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:42 pm
by viclioce
So, Max… What’s this pipe thing you hurt yourself with??? A broken rib is no fun. Get yourself well!!! :ugeek: Victor

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:51 am
by hodakamax
viclioce wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:42 pm So, Max… What’s this pipe thing you hurt yourself with??? A broken rib is no fun. Get yourself well!!! :ugeek: Victor
Removing a two inch post pipe sticking from the ground, Started to go get the tractor. About had it, one more full body push, evidently too vigorous. Pow! I heard the rib break clearly. I'm OK, just darn sore, especially when I laugh, ha ha. No shards, pieces or movement, Set still for a few weeks sez the Doctor. No handstands. Now I 'm just bored. Light Hodaka duty for awhile.
Maxie :?

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:23 pm
by viclioce
Get some self adhesive body wrap tape and wrap your ribs for support. Wrap it snug to give you support. It will get you thru this time & keep the pain at a minimum! 😉 Victor

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:54 am
by ossa95d
I didn't realize that you can visit this forum for medical advice also. Good to know.

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:31 am
by taber hodaka
Max apply a generous amount of Mentholatum or goose grease. Get allot of rest and don't lift over 112 pounds. If you are not better in eleven days, let us know and just to let you know, I would bet $5.00 that your head is on correctly. Clarence

Re: #3 Hodaka Project

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:59 am
by viclioce
Pop. I went thru a similar thing a few years ago. Fell off my 1500 because I hit a curb pulling into a gas station. Cracked 2 ribs when I fell over. It was a painful 4 hour ride home.
Physical therapist showed me how to do the wrap. I also did something similar, taping for college football players as a trainer when I was younger. :ugeek: Victor