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balancing flywheels

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:09 pm
by givergas
looking at the flywheels out of my 03 wombats i noticed, i assume , the balancing drill marks. can somebody expand on this thought ? how is it done ? how precise does it need to be ? thanks ...albert

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:42 pm
by taber hodaka
I think you are correct, If it were spinning 350 rpm not t big a deal. At 7,000 *8,000 * 9,000 Very big deal. Way beyond me. ------------ Clarence

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:57 am
by Bullfrog
The flywheels went through the balancing process at the Kokusan Denki factory prior to shipment and assembly on engines, so I'd have to assume there was no consideration of balancing to match/compensate for an individual engine. I can only guess as to how they went about the balancing procedure. It should be a "one and done" process though - balanced for life unless damaged.
Ed

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:21 am
by givergas
I only asked because the one with three drill marks looks professional the other one looks like I did it with a dull bit very rough

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:34 am
by Bullfrog
I zoomed in on the photo and can clearly see what you mean . . . they got ALL the life there was out of that drill bit! The other flywheel has a lightly "rolled edge" on each balancing hole - so that drill was on its way out too. It is interesting to me that de-burring the balancing holes was apparently "not a thing" - too slow/expensive I guess (with no direct detriment or positive effect, I guess I get it . . . sort of, kind of, maybe . . . )
Ed

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:16 pm
by Darrell
Look at how many drill holes it took to balance this 250SL flywheel!

I suppose all the metal lost through corrosion since has thrown it back out of whack.
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Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:42 pm
by matt glascock
That looks like a perfect waterline. Engine not stuck? That'd be a nice break.

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:53 am
by Bullfrog
??? Twenty year soak of the bottom quarter of the fly wheel to balance the previous soak of the top quarter??? (Um, I don't think that's gonna buff out. 🤪)

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:35 pm
by matt glascock
You'd really need to time the "turnover" perfectly and hit the Evaporust on a dime to keep the balance in check. Ultra-shade tree fly wheel MX conversion?

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:06 pm
by Bullfrog
Pro's and Con's:
Pro's: EASY, no skill requirement
Con's: Takes FOREVER, utterly uncontrollable results, no progress on re-build for 20 years . . .

(did I mention, easy?)

Ed :roll:

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:59 pm
by matt glascock
Confounder: Luck. The Step 2 flood stage needs to be exactly 4.1253" higher than Step 1 to get the high water marks aligned properly. Kind of a long shot but the above evidence suggests do-ability.

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:06 pm
by taber hodaka
It will speed up the process if you dip it in cow manure for tree and a half days first. ----- Clarence

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:15 pm
by Bullfrog
Do you have a "handle" on how much faster . . . ?
Ed

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:41 pm
by matt glascock
Details! Details! Male or female cow? Dairy or Beef? Grass fed or grain? I'm tired of you guys with all this top-secret $4it.

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:02 pm
by Bullfrog
I'm not sure you are ready for the details, Grasshopper. Heck, I'm not sure I'm ready for the details! Master Clarence will tell us more if he thinks we are ready. (Have I led us into "Old Man Going North" territory? :| )
Ed

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:27 pm
by matt glascock
Well, I could only rent Bossie for a week. Cop chop.

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:31 am
by taber hodaka
Just hold the tail up tight they will ** not kick ** start your motorcycle every timet --Clarence

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:58 am
by givergas
salt your missing salt, salt in the water, salt in the cow manure, and when ever you hold tails tight you always put salt on them.....albert

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:51 am
by Bullfrog
I wuz starting to worry that the original questioners on this thread might (just maybe) start to think that this particular group of Hodaka responders could be ever-so-slightly goofy. So I reviewed the complete thread, and I feel much better now. Albert and Darrel ALREADY know about us. So, no problem! ;)
Ed

Re: balancing flywheels

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:52 pm
by matt glascock
That is a part of my character I have a tough time hiding.