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Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:52 am
by gearyoliver
I had a coworker who mentioned an old orange bike under a tree in her parents back yard. It took a couple of years but I rescued it and got it stored under cover. That was 3 years ago. Just got it out so I can work on getting it running.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:31 am
by viclioce
Pics please!!!
Victor
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:04 am
by gearyoliver
I'm working on that. Tried to use my Google drive and Google photos by link sharong so far no go. Will look into other options.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:38 am
by gearyoliver
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:44 am
by gearyoliver
I'll put up some info tonight.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:23 pm
by viclioce
Looks like a saver to me!
Victor
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:26 pm
by gearyoliver
Left main bearing trashed. Crack in the case will be an issue but should be fixable. Odd place for it to crack.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:37 pm
by gearyoliver
Not sure yet what this is. Washed it out. Time to look at parts list.
This is going to take awhile but I'm excited to make progress.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:09 pm
by gearyoliver
I haven't found it so far. Any ideas?
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:08 pm
by Bullfrog
That is a gear tooth. So a thorough check of all your transmission and primary drive gears is in your future.
Ed
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:32 pm
by gearyoliver
Awwww......
I thought this was a bike, not a boat.
I'll go hunting tomorrow.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:25 am
by matt glascock
The waterline in the crank case suggests boat. Cheer up, friend. You are saving a piece of history and when you are finished, you will have an incredibly cool bike! I've started out with much worse protoplasm - one of which I ride to work most every day.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:10 am
by nortryder
Hmmm, I've got one of those too. Are your flywheels useable? I think mine are trash.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:13 am
by gearyoliver
Matt, that's pretty cool you ride a ressurection almost daily
I knew generally what I was getting into. I'm stoked to get to work on this, doesn't really matter how long it takes. Just depends on funding. Like most of you I've got other projects competing for time and dollars.
Nortryder, maybe, i hope so. I'll see after i get them cleaned. Here is a picture.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 am
by gearyoliver
2nd gear is the culprit. Everything else looks good on a quick visual inspection. Have to think about how much to replace.
Oh and sorry about huge pictures. I figured out how to resize. I can delete the others if necessary.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:15 am
by matt glascock
I can't stop smiling when I ride that Ace to work. I have to be careful riding around if I am in a hurry as folks want to stop and ask questions about it or share stories about their Hodaka back in the day. That is always enjoyable. That crank looks like a good candidate for a rebuild. Hodaka Dave has rebuilt several for me and they have always worked perfectly without exception. Shoot him a line at
[email protected]. I'm sure there are other equally competent folks with the know how and equipment here on the forum, but I've always had great results working with Hodaka Dave. Very cool bike you have there. I hoe to get one myself one day.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:11 am
by taber hodaka
The crank could have been bad before. The watermarks look like the piston was up and out of the water, closer examination is needed. You must have clean un'rusted crank bearings, I would never be afraid to use a crank that was tight with clean bearings. Just me -------------Clarence
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
by matt glascock
Agreed Clarence. The water mark looks almost directly opposite the big end rod bearing. Also, at least from what we can see, the splines look perfect. All good signs for a rebuildable crank.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:25 pm
by gearyoliver
I'm hoping the assembly is rebuildable and the corrosion is not too deep on the cheeks. Comes from having a rag stuck in the reed cage with no carb for 30 years in western Washington.
So far I have on my list;
Much more cleaning
Repair right case
All new bearings, seals, gaskets,
Rebuild the crank assembly
New 2nd gear
New control shift springs
Top end rebuild
What am I missing?
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:59 pm
by Bullfrog
. . . a bit of pitting on the crank cheeks just helps mix the fuel and the air ????
(seriously, pitting of the cheeks is not an issue until it gets in the rod thrust washer area.)
Ed
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:39 pm
by matt glascock
Spark? How do the ignition system components look?
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:34 pm
by viclioce
Geary. I will check to see if I have a spare second gear I can send you. This one appears to be a 26 tooth, including the one missing. If you want to PM me your address & ph. # I can let you know! If I have it, it’s yours, gratis!
Victor
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:37 pm
by gearyoliver
Dirty but don't look like they got wet. If it's no good I might have to research the Honda CR125 adaptation. I think I have a 1975 and a 1976 bottom end lying around somewhere.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:53 pm
by gearyoliver
Wow! Viclioce I just sent info. My fingers are crossed. Toes too, well if I could I would.
Re: Model 97 - Finally getting started
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:57 pm
by matt glascock
That would be great. Time to get out the VOM. I believe the specs are to be found on this forum. Now I'm crossing my fingers and toes for you.