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Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:04 am
by SuperRat2110
Hey Guys, just wondering if there is a rebuild kit for 1974 98 Super Rat. I have the motor split and need new seals and bearings. Also, on the top end, what should I be looking for as far as wear and tear. What is normal and do I necessarily need to have anything done to it besides new gaskets? What special tools do I need to pull bearings?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:36 am
by socalhodaka
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Whats your name and where are you from? Post a photo of your project. If you have a local bearing shop around you can get bearing and seals there.

you n eed
6304 x 1
6204 x 2
6203 x 1
Seals
R-crank 47x25x7
L-crank 30x20x7
Counter shaft 38x25x5

Theres a couple other o-rings, shift kits rebuild, heavy duty kicker and a few others stuff. So say where your from as other Hodaka folks may be near you for support.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:53 am
by SuperRat2110
Thanks, I'm Shaun, from FDL Wisconsin. I will get some photos posted for you soon. The bike I got was in pretty good condition overall. It was my uncles but sat for quite a few years. I had it running but the clutch wasn't working well and compression wasn't were it needed to be so I thought I would start breaking it down and restoring it. I really wouldn't have to do much but I want it to look brand new when I'm done. Plan on keeping it around awhile so why not.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:35 am
by socalhodaka
Join the Hodaka Club, you will have access to many issue of our newsletters with ton of tips. Also the Hodaka Fan Page on Facebook.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:37 am
by socalhodaka
Here's a little sneak preview of my California Hodaka 125 SC for next season. California Hodaka is located in Arizona.
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Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:44 am
by SuperRat2110
Very nice! Is that the original blue? It looks lighter?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:48 am
by socalhodaka
Yes as close as can be, the engine is painted a different color then stock. Also check out Socalhodaka on YouTube

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:55 am
by SuperRat2110
I've seen some of your vids. Look forward to seeing more. Question, I can't seem to seem to get the rotor off of the crankshaft so that I can remove it, is there a trick to it?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:13 am
by SuperRat2110
Here some photos. The one of the bike put together was after I cleaned it up pretty good. Obviously it was well preserved while it sat. But still need work.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:46 am
by socalhodaka
Wow, that baby looks like new. You need the special rotor puller.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:09 am
by JackM
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Shaun, the rotor takes a special tool which is kind of pricey, but you can borrow a puller from Auto Zone that will do the trick. I'm currently working on a model 98 too, but mine has a super combat cylinder and head, plus larger carb. The colors of the 98 is a navy blue, a bit darker than the royal blue of the 97 super combat. Here are a few pics of my build so far.The air box was modified so that the intake boot would fit due to larger carb/cylinder.
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Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:24 am
by JackM
Shaun, I just saw the pics of your bike. Very nice!! You have a great starting point, as it already looks like new. Good luck with it. JackM

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:35 am
by SuperRat2110
Thanks for the info guys. Questions, do most guys do their own paint jobs? Should I be painting the motor while it's all apart or after rebuild? What should I expect to pay to have the frame painted? Is that another do it yourself type thing. Any info would be great. Never rebuilt anything before but not afraid to get my hands dirty. Suggestions welcomed. Thanks gentlemen!

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:40 am
by socalhodaka
You know original is the hot thing right now and yours is pretty sweet. I would think about leaving it.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:49 am
by SuperRat2110
Socal, do you mean I should just finish the motor build and leave paint alone at this point? Don't paint anything?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:22 pm
by JackM
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Socal, I would never even think about leaving mine the way it was when I got it, but Shauns, that's a different story.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:26 pm
by SuperRat2110
Wow, that's quite the contrast. How far are you on fixing it up?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:10 pm
by JackM
Shaun, its the same bike in the above 3 pics. I'm waiting on a few parts to arrive before I can go any further. JackM

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:59 pm
by SuperRat2110
Sorry I thought that it was different person who posted that.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:19 pm
by socalhodaka
Yes just fix it with the new parts and leave it as original, then come join us next year at Hodaka Days for a great time.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:05 pm
by SuperRat2110
I picked up some bearings today, some of them were sealed. I'm assuming that's fine. They weren't cheap either. Anyways, do a lot of guys freeze them before installing or use heat or both?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:46 pm
by Hydraulic Jack
Are you referring to wheel bearings of engine bearings? Sealed wheel bearings are your choice. Engine bearings should not be sealed.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:54 pm
by SuperRat2110
Yes, I'm referring to the engine bearings. So don't use the sealed ones on the motor. Stupid question but can I ask why?

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:18 pm
by dirty_rat
What you need to remove the rotor is a CDI rotor puller. Paul sells them right here (this site) at Strictly Hodaka. Here is the part number, etc.

CDI Rotor Puller- Part# 203006

While they might seem a little pricey (depends on your point of view), it is much less expensive than buying a new rotor, crankshaft or engine casing.

Re: Rebuild on 98 SuperRat

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:23 pm
by dirty_rat
You don't use the sealed bearings in the engine because if you do, they won't get any additional lubrication from the fuel/oil mix. In wheels, they are fine as they don't spin anywhere as fast as in an engine. You can use the bearings, as long as you remove the seals before installing them.