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Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:24 am
by Pep
So here's a dumb question for the experts:
If I swap my CW to an 03 front end, what rear suspension changes are necessary?
Lengthen rear shocks and/or swingarm?
How badly would handling be affected by leaving the rear end alone?
I know this was discussed on the previous forum, but I can't remember the details.
Thanks!
-Laurie

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:37 am
by bobwhitman
You need to lengthen rear shox or you have a cruiser... Not happy turning. Most of us have gone to 14.5". Swingarm's more costly/complex.
Bob

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:51 am
by Pep
Thanks Bob,
I'm running 14" Works - maybe just dropping the tree a bit on the forks will keep things "normal"

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:08 am
by rdbrooks14
Again, many of us are running 14.5 and for a reason...

That setup gives you about the right "lift" in the rear to get the correct geometry without dropping the forks down too much. ONE your CW, with 14.5s you want about 29 degrees on the forks to give you the right trail all things considered.

You can drop your forks down in the trees BUT make sure you test FULL bottom to make sure you don't hit your fender! I don't think it will be an issue but you don't want to find out it is as you come off a huge double and find yourself sailing over the bars :roll:

Bob in MD

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:05 am
by socalhodaka
Laurie, Greg made a neat setup on my bike to add about 1" to my rear of my bike. I didn't want to by another set of shocks, I will be getting my bike for storage to race on the 22th and I will take some photos of the part.
Kelly

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:05 am
by Pep
Bob, thanks for the good advice - I'll take advantage of it - but I do try to avoid huge doubles on the Combat... :o
Kelly, I'd love to see the set-up, looking forward to the photos
Laurie

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:01 pm
by Bullfrog
Laurie:
You'll LIKE the model 03 Wombat forks on your Combat Wombat. They have been a "don't leave home without 'em" fixture on my "go fast" scooter since 2005.

You are getting excellent advice on the topic.

Ed
PS: Since you are doing a change-over on the front end anyway . . . now might be a good time to consider moving the brake backing plate to the "other" side (left side) and building up the new brake cable housing anchor point and long brake lever we discussed at Hodaka Days.

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:52 pm
by bobwhitman
PS: Since you are doing a change-over on the front end anyway . . . now might be a good time to consider moving the brake backing plate to the "other" side (left side) and building up the new brake cable housing anchor point and long brake lever we discussed at Hodaka Days.


...Or swap in a later, conical hub for the front wheel. Waay better than the original. (Ed values originality...
Bob

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:04 pm
by Bullfrog
. . . however . . . even if the conical hub gets installed . . . switching the backing plate to the other side greatly improves the cable routing.

I guess I would have to admit that the bike I rode at the Reunion Ride had the conical hub with stock cam lever . . . and it was purty dang good!

Ed
PS: Of course it could be better yet with the lever pointing forward and with a bit of extra length. ;-)

Re: Combat Wombat Suspension Modifications

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:49 pm
by Pep
Thanks guys!
As a matter of fact, I laced up a conical hub - the CW will have a new world of a front end!
It will be nice to have some "slow down!" parts to match all the "go fast!" parts that I've put on the bike
Really appreciate all the input folks - y'all are a class act.
Laurie