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Ace cylinder porting???....

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I was going thru my spare cylinders today. One of them appears to have had some kind of porting done to it.

There are, for lack of the known terminology, some type of “finger ports” running up the inside of the cylinder wall.

Second, the holes in the base of the cylinder have been enlarged on either side.

Third, the exhaust port opening has been widened.

The porting looks like it was done by someone with a somewhat unsteady hand.

Finally, tho what appears to be somewhat crudely, the intake ports on the back of the cylinder have been enlarged.

Here’s a few photos. Can someone tell me what’s been done to the cylinder porting wise? Is it reed porting for an Ace? Is it something else? Is it useable? :ugeek: Victor
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Back of intake ports
Back of intake ports
Is this called a transfer port?
Is this called a transfer port?
Intake port
Intake port
Exhaust port
Exhaust port

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Yup. Reed valved and "hot rodded".

Ed
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OK. So then it would need either an Ace piston drilled with 4 open holes on the back of the skirt, or a similar Super Rat piston?

This is the first example I’ve seen of a standard Ace cylinder converted to reed and the porting which goes with it. I get what all the enlarging does, but what do those funny looking finger ports, or whatever their correct terminology is, do for the motor? :ugeek:

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Those ports provide for increased "transfer" flow. ie transfer of fuel/air from the bottom end of the engine up to the combustion end of the engine.
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I see. Well good to know! I’m not quite sure of the bore on it yet, std, .010 maybe. Do you concur that it looks to have been done well enough to use even though it wasn’t done by a real steady hand? :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Long distance review suggests that the cylinder may be a "full race" cylinder with peaky power-band, a possible tendency to eat rings or pistons . . . but which runs like a cheetah on nitrous between (possible) top end failures. Waviness in the porting may not be ideal . . . but has very little to do with above knee-jerk assessment. Probably a cylinder best used by an experienced old school tuner.

Ed
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I’ll trade it to anyone who will swap me a stock Ace cylinder which is ready for a piston! Free port job for anyone who wants it! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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I will trade you Victor. ------------- Clarence
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Let’s Do It Clarence!!! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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what address do I use? I also need to send out to a few others, Bruce and the trivia winners. -------------Clarence
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Clarence. Here’s my address!

Victor Lioce
1088 Sunshine Way
Santa Fe, NM 87507

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Clarence. Have you sent that Ace cylinder yet? Just checking in? :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Victor please call me or I will you. 406 261 9326 ------ need to know what I have you could use cylinder wise. ---------------- Clarence
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Clarence. Just a stock Ace cylinder from standard bore to .020 over. Anything usable. Doesn’t need to be reeded or special porting. Just a stock Ace 100. I’ll be holding it for a spare. :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Packed and ready to ship.--------------- Clarence
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Great news! I’ll send the ported one back in the same box! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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In the mail Victor and Bruce. ------- Clarence
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Great Clarence! I’ll be watching for it! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Clarence! The Ace cylinder arrived today!!! Yeay!!! I’ll get the ported one in the mail to you tomorrow! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Victor how did it look to you?
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Looks fine inside! Inside a little dirty & rusty, but nothing I can’t clean up & repaint! Be watching for the same box coming back to you! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Clarence. Here is the tracking number for the cylinder being sent to you! It went out today!

:ugeek: Victor

9534 6118 0023 1221 1941 23
USPS

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Clarence. According to the post office the box with the cylinder was delivered today. Did you get it? :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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