Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Image[/img]Hi Hodaka Club,
I'm putting a newly acquired partly assembled Thunder Dog back together. The front axle seems to be missing something, and I can't things to line up just right. On the non-brake side of the hub, is there supposed to be a spacer or bushing between the hub and the shoulder of the axle? It looks like this spacer might also incorporate a dust cover for the seal on that side. It does not show up on the factory parts diagram, but it seems to me there should be something there as the diameter of the axle and axle shoulder are too small for the seal diameter. Thank you. Jeff
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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See illustration page "P" in the Parts List. It shows a speedometer drive - but the 250 ED didn't come with a speedo. On small bore off-road Hodies there was a spacer which went on the front axle in place of the speedo drive. Can't remember for sure about the 250's. I'm sure Terry at Hodaka Parts can tell you what's up.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Looks like there’s a different kind of spacer. See the pics and parts ID in the pics below. :ugeek: Victor
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Vic I don't see the non-brake side of the hub in that illustration.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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My problem is on the other side of the hub, the non-brake side.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle pacer and ed as sembly

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The 250ED came standard with an odd selection of enduro parts. The speedometer drive was stock and also acted as a spacer to complete the seal of the front wheel bearing. It had a tail light, shock covers, but no headlight or speedometer. I used one for vintage enduro racing and adapted a Preston Petty headlight/number plate and 250SL speedometer/cable set. Later I tried using it as a vintage motocrosser and took a lot of ribbing over the speedometer drive. It was a much better enduro mount than MXer.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Sorry about that with the image. Here’s the entire image this time. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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From that picture it appears that the shoulder of the axle contacts the inner race of the bearing and the seal rides on the larger diameter surface of the axle shoulder.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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The problem is that this picture does not include the speedo drive spacer. It is shown in figure P. You need to either use a speedo drive or fabricate a like spacer. That has been covered pretty well I think.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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My 250 ED came with a speedo drive unit and headlight/number plate. I did install a complete speedometer set up from Hodaka Parts.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Will the spacer from the 125 Duper Combat fit the 250 ED Front axle? Just asking for info purposes.

I know it works with the Wombat. I used the entire front wheel/axle assembly from an SC on my Wombat Combat. Don’t know if the 250 axle is the same diameter. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Sorry no. The 250 uses a larger axle.
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Re: Hodaka 250 front hub/axle assembly

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Hi All:
I found the part I needed on Ebay. It was listed as being for a Road Toad, but the inside diameter looked like the larger axle size, so I took a gamble and bought it. It fits. Did the Road Toad have the larger 15mm axle like the 250? Or did I just get lucky? Thanks to all for the help.
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