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djdesantis
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Post by djdesantis »

I need to repaint an Ace 100 B+. Paul no longer sells paint so does anyone have a brand color out there that is as close as we can get to the actual color? Prefer not to powder coat if I can help it. Lee, if you see this, what do you use for your restorations? Thanks all, see you at HD next month!
Joe Ormonde
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Re: Paint

Post by Joe Ormonde »

Try VHT SP119 Chevy Red Orange. You can clear coat it with VHT145 Clear gloss. It`s as close as it gets and holds up fantastic!!! I will post photos as soon as my son shows me how but until then go to EBAY. Look up SUPER RAT SOLD Listings. I sold a new Carburetor and you can see the dusty frame tube. Joe Ormonde.
viclioce
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I did the Chevy Victory Red for my Red Toad! Bought it at O’Riley’s in their rattle can section! They also have the clear coat to go with it!
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
go_hercules
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Re: Paint

Post by go_hercules »

Just to add to Joe's comment, if you use chevy orange in whatever brand be aware that there are two flavors of orange. One really really orange and another that's more of a red orange, which I'm sure what Joe is referring to.
viclioce
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Re: Paint

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For my Ace 100 B+, I used a paint I got from Lowe’s. It was their brand or Valspar Rust Spray, and comparable to the Rustoleum Red. Here’s a photo of the frame after painting.

I also used a grey primer underneath it. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
viclioce
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Here’s a photo of it as a rolling chassis. And another with the motor in it. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
viclioce
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And the final product! :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
Joe Ormonde
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Re: Paint

Post by Joe Ormonde »

You bet Go Hercules!!! The other Chevy paint is TERRIBLE!!! I painted my Super Rat 4 years ago and it still looks fantastic. When my Rat was 4 years old, it faded to that awful orange color. The best way to describe the color when my bike was Brand New would be TANGERINE. Some faded and some did not. I found out that my Super Rat was painted with Synthetic Enamel:Not Acrylic Enamel. That`s why it faded so fast. Joe Ormonde.
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hodakamax
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Re: Paint

Post by hodakamax »

This stuff is bright and a good match. I've used it on the last two restorations. #7564 Safety red. Sometimes hard to find. Try Farm stores or online.

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rlkarren
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Re: Paint

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A couple years ago, I spent a few weeks and the extra dollars for a professional color match. The end result was an indistinguishable color match against the test frame. I used the main Frame support under the tank that looked to have never been exposed to direct sunlight and the inside of an early headlight bucket. Since I had intended to paint more than one Hodaka, I asked them to save the color formula, which they did under "Hodaka Red". Here's a couple photos to show: (The 2nd Photo shows an unpainted and a little faded Air cleaner for reference. The 3rd photo is a 2nd Air Cleaner that I painted using the same paint.)
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I usually have them put it in rattle cans for me for a couple extra dollars. The benefit of this is that I can also have them mix it as a lacquer, enamel or two-stage. These photos depict two-stage.

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Roger
djdesantis
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Re: Paint

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Good stuff here, thanks for all of the info. Rogers color looks spot on for my less than 20/20 vision. At least the best we can do to represent the Hodaka moniker.
Joe Ormonde
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Remember that the Air Box is Red and the Frame is Red Orange. Joe Ormonde
RylanCoffey
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Re: Paint

Post by RylanCoffey »

Wait paul no longer sells paint??? I was getting ready to buy some for my fenders. I have the dirt squirt 01 with the orange tank and on his website I still see paint
djdesantis
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Re: Paint

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Hi Rylan, I e mailed him and he said no, he no longer sells it. He said to many people complained about the price, oh well.
dirty_rat
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Re: Paint

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That terrible. He has the prices listed right there on the web site. If you feel it is too high, don't buy it, but don't complain and ruin it for those of us that are willing to pay for a higher quality product. Snowflakes!!!
RylanCoffey
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Re: Paint

Post by RylanCoffey »

Dang, idc about the price of the paint cause if its the only type that matches perfectly I'd pay for it
rlkarren
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Re: Paint

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Rylan, unless you're doing a museum resto, I wouldn't worry too much about getting the exact paint color. Just get close and you'll be very happy with it if it's going to be a rider

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Roger
thrownchain
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Re: Paint

Post by thrownchain »

Any quality paint shop should be able to get a very close match to the stock colors.
JackM
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Re: Paint

Post by JackM »

I used Kubota orange on my model 97/98. Looks pretty good.
RylanCoffey
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Post by RylanCoffey »

Ight cool thanks for the info!
djdesantis
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Re: Paint

Post by djdesantis »

I ended up using the Chev orange red paint, and found this to be a very very close match for the 100B+. Covered with clear. Thanks for the info. On my way to the reassembly now.
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