Etiquette on the Forum

[hodakamax]

I do spend some time on the Forum as a contributor and consumer I suppose. I actually put quite a bit of time in what I write and photograph for our Forum. The Forum is a great social medium and many members have become friends of mine and I hope theirs. I see the Forum as a fun and humorous outlet for me and my amateur writings. It's a place I can share projects of mine and others can do likewise. It's a place to help others with advice if you can and receive it if needed. This is and should be what Forums are about.

Forums at least in my opinion are not for criticizing or putting down people and their ideas and work. Forums are not to advertise how smart someone thinks they are. Posts are the creators input and not a place to rudely intervene and challenge. Posts are for discussions not attempted put downs and questionable advice. Mis-quotes are definitely out. Bad attitudes and predictions of failure not needed.

I presently have a post on a project that is enjoyable for me to show and discuss with others. Members have great usable input and ideas along with our usual chat on life as Forums should be. All fun.

On with the story. I have a member participant who wants me to build my project his way and almost always negative on any accomplishments done and always mentioning his credentials and accomplishments. A subtle warning and one not so subtle was given mentioning that this was my post and not his and to keep it positive.

This is not a complaint but an observation and something that will not continue on my posts and watch. I do not have to defend my posts, me or my work. I can take care of myself but it's not what our Forum should be or become.

Max

[JackM]

Hear, hear.

[Joe Ormonde]

Any Laurel and Hardy fans out there? One of their films is called Towed in a Hole. Watch it! I hate to admit that a few of my projects remind me of this film. They buy a boat so they can catch their own fish and it turns into a mess! So, concerning any ones project to quote Oliver Hardy: ( I have nothing to say!) Joe Ormonde.

[efkruger]

I have years ago learned to always treat others with respect and treat them how I would want to be treated. That is the Golden Rule of life. I learned years ago being nice and polite will get you much more than being mean spirited, arrogant and rude. I did not ever put anyone down. When I was the supervisor of the tooling shop at Reynolds International in McAllen, Texas. I everyday in the morning went up to every one of my men and shook their hand and greeted them. I did this every single day without fail. This simple act of kindness and respect made all the difference in the world. My men would bend over backwards to help me get done what I needed to. I got done more with only four men than the previous very negative supervisor did with eleven men and an assistant.
In my youth I also learned not to let negativity influence me. I learned when working for a very demanding boss not to gripe when he gave me a hard assignment but rather to use my energy to solve the task at hand rather to gripe and complain about it. Keeping a positive attitude will help you to solve whatever problem you have. Keeping a positive attitude and treating others with respect is essential with succeeding in life. God Bless everyone here on this Forum. Merry Christmas!

[Joe Ormonde]

Also remember (You catch more flies with sugar than vinegar) Joe Ormonde.

[Dale]

Max,
Those that have the patience to document and share their projects are appreciated. It certainly helps those of us that lack the experience in all things "Hodaka". Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas to all.
Dale

[Bill2001]

Good post, Max. I'm in total agreement.

[socalhodaka]

I think you should be required to have a photo in all your post, because they are so good. Thank for all the time you take to share your projects.

[thrownchain]

People who take the time to take pics and document their builds should be thanked for the effort and the info shared. In most instances there are questions answered that weren't asked yet and ideas forwarded that may have not been considered before. Anyone should be encouraged to build their bike their way as it's a learning experience and the lessons gained are more than worth it. It is a good feeling to be able to say " I built it myself". And if others appreciate the efforts all the better.

[Makotosun]

If someone posts something that is offensive, or otherwise objectionable, please advise one or more of the moderators. As we move to the new software that function will remain available.

There will always be those who believe there is only one way to skin a cat, (or build a Rat!), and will weigh in with their opinions. My philosophy is that everyone builds their own project. Unless I see a safety issue, or maybe have personal bad experience with a build direction, to each their own. Unless I am am buying it, how it is built is really none of my business! Hopefully others feel the same way about my heretical creations!

We hope to have this forum be the centerpiece of the new site so we all want it to continue to be the go to place for Hodakans.

Live long and prosper . . .

[viclioce]

No Good Story ever started with a Salad . . .

Sometimes it’s just a fruit salad! LOL!
Can members currently delete a post on a thread they started? Might be something useful. I know I would have used it a few times were it available. Victor

[Makotosun]

Users should be able to edit their own posts.

[Bill2001]

Victor-- at the top of the posts are three buttons: Quote. Report. Edit.
No delete as such, but you can edit down to a period.

Edit-- oh wait, I see an "x" button on new posts, so I guess they can be deleted within the first few minutes.

[hodakamax]

Update:
Now the righteous has sent hopefully the last word to me in a demeaning Bible verse in my PM. I really need to be insulted in front of my friends rather some snide private message box and not in the name of religion. First on my post, now this? Strange indeed.

I'm not complaining about the actions of others but this seems to violate the the rules and ethics of our Forum and again will not be tolerated by me. My presence on our Forum is social and fun. I'm not here to argue or be insulted yet again or waste another minute on the actions of others at least on Our Forum.

Action to take? I'm taking mine. Just keeping the Gang posted on a potential problem I don't want to happen again to any member.

Cheers Gang and thanks for your support of me and my weird ramblings, projects and likewise humor!

Max

[BrianZ]

I haven't been posting on this site as much as I used to, mostly because I am not doing as much restoration work as I used to. However; Max, I've followed your posts and appreciate the work you put into both your projects and your posts. There are occasions when I would disagree with the approaches you are taking (and I am sure you would argue with some of the approaches I have taken as well) but in the end it's your project and we all have different tastes and ideas. I have learned some things from your posts, and bottom line: Keep up the good work and ignore (insert appropriate derogatory name for the person here).

And thanks for your contributions to the Hodaka Club Resonator.

Brian

[Bill2001]

Sorry that you are having problems. Guess he didn't learn from his first timeout.

Best thing to do is to put him on Ignore. In your "control panel" there are buttons for friends or foes. When he is on ignore, you won't see his posts.

[hodakamax]

Hey thanks Brian and Bill. It's really not a problem for me but for the Forum in general. I'm just bringing it to light. Hopefully the offender will finally get the message that I don't want to deal with him in any way. We have nothing in common.

I suppose most everyone notices in my writings that I rarely if ever say that this is the right way to do something. I say or infer that this is my approach to how I think I can do something. I take advice but do like to try my approach first. I can learn from failure. I am not an expert. I was a Hodaka Dealer and racer from decades ago. This is not my expertise now. This is a hobby I got back into a few years ago after 40 years of being gone. I do like to share history and how it used to be. The projects are fun, the friends are great.

I really do appreciate everyones comments. You really do help drive me on. My amateur writing career has been equal fun and even somewhat successful. I Having been a Photographer most of my life and being married to a Journalism teacher and now Graphic Designer, my writing career is moving forward and I still get to do photography. What could be better? Did I mention that my wife was an English teacher before that? I already knew that buying a camera does not make you a photographer nor buying a pencil make you a writer. You just don't become anything overnight. Her input has been phenomenal.

Well, I'm getting slightly off-track but I should put myself in perspective on what I know and what I'd like to know. Beware of experts I always say!

Max

PS--Hey Brian! Good to hear from you! We miss your fun writings in the Forum and Resonator.

[JackM]

Well said, Max. Keep on keepin' on.