Decent Fuel Line???

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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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No Honda Shop. Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha, KTM & Polaris, so maybe they have 5.5. I’ll check Tuesday when they open.

I did order a foot of the Tygon on eBay in 1/4” just to try it. I’ll be trying it on the Green Road Toad this week as I have time to get to it. It will be nice to here that one finally fire up too.

Hmmm. That reminds me, I didn’t drill the front of the Green Toad’s piston where it lines up with the bridge like I did with the Red Toad. I should pull the cylinder off and do that so it helps keep the exhaust bridge cooler on this bike too!

Thanks! :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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"Honda shop... 5.5mm fuel line."

Don't think they've used that in years shorty. But a Whitworth hose in 28/64" would have a nominal metric ID of 5.78452mm and come in a translucent British Racing Green.
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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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Interesting. The shop opens tomorrow & I will see what they have in stock.

The 3/16” line did work as long as I heated up the ends to make them expand and slide onto the petcocks. So I don’t need as tight a clamp now. Going to see if they have son 1/4” spring clamps. The auto parts store didn’t. :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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I don't use spring clamps anymore on the dirt bike. I safety wire the fuel line. It's easy, it doesn't fail, it won't cut the tube unless you are using baling wire, and while having safety wire pliers is nice, it isn't required. I used needle nose pliers for years. Harbor Freight has safety wire cheap.

And, no, Honda hasn't used 5.5mm tube for years, but since lots of folks still have Honda bikes as old as ours, they still stock the tubing.
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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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While tinkering with the Road Toad mentioned in another thread, I checked out the fuel line which had been installed at some point. It measures out at .260"ID and .448"OD - which is kind of odd because I can't find a listing for Tygon fuel tubing 1/4" X 7/16". But this is clearly Tygon tubing - since "Tygon" is printed on the tubing. Enneywayee, with a bit of firm twisting and pushing, this heavy wall Tygon will slide on to the carb fuel fitting on a 50 degree day with no heating of the tubing. The fit IS tight enough that I don't think any kind of securing device is needed at the carb. The tubing slips on to the "T" and the petcocks with only slight expansion of the tubing as it goes on - so a securing wrap (actually, 2 wraps) of safety wire will be used before the machine leaves the garage. If you zoom in on the photo, you can see the slight expansion of the tubing on the tank petcock.

Grab the safety wire ends with pliers (or ViseGrip pliers) and semi-firmly pull while twisting the ends together. Stop twisting when just the slightest (repeat, slightest) indentation of the wire into the tubing is seen. Trim the wire and tuck the sharp end so it won't poke the fuel line or the machine user.
99RTAndTygon1.jpg
NOTES:
1. The fuel fitting on the Road Toad carb is considerably larger than the fitting on the stock 28mm carb on a Combat Wombat. I use 3/16" X 5/16" Tygon on my 125 enduro bike with CW carb.
2. It doesn't appear to me that one could use the 3/16" ID Tygon on the Road Toad carb - since the tubing would be stretched sooooooo much to fit the inlet fitting that it would likely fail at that point over time.
3. The fuel fitting on the Toad carb measures out at 8mm (.319") between the ribs, while the "T" fitting "barbs" measure out at 6.9mm (.270") (max. OD - no good way to measure between the "ribs") Sorry, I forgot to measure the fuel petcocks.

Ed
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Re: Decent Fuel Line???

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Yep. I just used all 5/16 for the filter to carb connection. The filters I bought are 1/4” in and 5/16” out. I was lucky to find them that way! Bought 4 of them on eVay for $10 shipping included. :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
; D Victor
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