1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Hi, I've been putting together the wiring for a 1968 Ace 100 and so far I've put it together according to the wiring diagram from am ace 90 as it's the closest to the original wiring. And for whatever reason I can't get any of the lights to work. Is there a ground I'm missing somewhere? Something simple? Otherwise everything else works just fine. Thanks for all the help.

,Cooper
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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I could be wrong with the engine running the yellow wire to the light switch should be hot. The red wire off of the battery should be hot. Some times with too much voltage you can burn out your bulbs, before you get started, check them. You need the correct lighting coil?? ----------- Clarence
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Cool, I'll look into it. I have new taillight bulbs and speedo and high beam indicator bulbs, and found a replacement headlight. I'll check out the wires out of the motor and battery as well. Thanks

,Cooper
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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I’ve attached an Ace 100 wiring diagram for you. Hope it helps.

When I wire an Ace, I start at the top of the chart and connect each item, moving clockwise around the diagram. Keeps things simpler that way because you’re only connecting a few wires at a time.

If you have questions, let me know. I just about can wire most any Hodaka now without referring to a wiring diagram!

I also remove the old fuse holder and wire in a mini blade fuse holder to replace it. They tend to fry up and crumble away. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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This copy is a little sharper. :ugeek: Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Victor I think your wiring diagram is for a 100B (92A, 92B or the 92B+) I think he is working on a ace 100 model 92. I do not think the ace 100 model 92 had a emergency light switch??>> In the day, I had a print shop enlarge the wiring diagram two feet by three feet and hung them on the wall, so I did not have to keep referring to the small print in the manual. I think the BU wire which I think means blue is the ground wire. ----------- Clarence
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Clarence is correct. ;) Victor
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1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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viclioce wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:04 pm Clarence is almost correct. But here is the Ace 100 Model 92 wiring diagram! And yes, Clarence , the Model 92 also had an emergency switch. ;) Victor
Nope! Better check yourself here Victor. If there are any Model 92's with an emergency switch, I would like to see it.
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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OK. Well this is what’s posted on Terry’s website as a Model 92 wiring diagram. Wouldn’t be the first time I was mis-informed by a web posting. I stand corrected. :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Dagnabit! The white haired old dude who hangs around here a lot apparently put my copy of the Official Hodaka Workshop Manual in a safe place - safe because it could not be found! I've been searching for a week . . . and I gave the search one more try just a few minutes ago. Eureka! I found it!

Ennnnnneywayeeee, see below for the wiring diagram which was printed as a supplement to the ACE 90 manual to provide updated information on the ACE 100.
Ed
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Is this the case of a confusion factor? Who's on first, a possible error in labeling the wiring diagrams?. -------- Clarence
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Just to be sure, it was me (Ed) using exclamation marks to indicate frustration with the old coot who "squirreled away" my Workshop Manuals. 😉

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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Update: I got all the lights to work taillight/stop light headlight, High beam indicator and speedometer Light. The only problem I'm facing now is that the fuses keep breaking as if it there's too much power through them. I'm not sure what's causing it, I have a proper battery so the only thing I can assume is the stator or something with charging. If anyone knows that would be great thanks you for all the good info it was very helpful.

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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Test your Selenium Rectifier - you'll need the Workshop Manual for that. Also, (and this MAY be all you need to do) - make sure the Selenium Rectifier is mounted "square" - not twisted. The corners of the plate must NOT touch anything.
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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I like to slip in a late model voltage regulator from a Road Toad on my Ace or Wombat restorations. The charging systems seem to get more aggressive as they get older. Especially now that original headlights are getting scarce and pricey.
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Re: 1968 Model 92 Ace 100 Wiring / Lighting Help

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Yes and so many different lighting coils to choose from, I have considered the voltage regulator myself. Clarence
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I used a Toad voltage regulator on my last Wombat build. It gives a more consistent light for the headlight and no surges to burn the lamp prematurely. :ugeek: Victor

1978 175SL
1976 03 Wombat
1975 99 Road Toad (2)
1973 96 Dirt Squirt (2)
1973 “Wombat Combat”
1973 Combat Wombat
1972 94 Wombat (2)
1972 Super Squirt
1971 92B+ Ace
1970 92B Ace 100B (2)
1968 92 Ace 100
1966 Ace 90
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